Munna Bhai
09-23 07:22 AM
I guess the cat is out of the bag. Yes, I got my greencard a few weeks ago. Yes, my PD is early 2004.
There are 2 current theories why:-
1. I'm very vocal in the media and lawmakers about the problem, and something made this happen (as my co-workers say "they gave it to you to shut you up")
2. I was a lucky one that was assigned a visa number in early June (when I applied for AOS) - it was approved when my PD was not current.
I'm not going anywhere, nothing has changed with the current policy. It is still broken. If for no other reason, the bizarre circumstances around my GC highlight more unpredictability and uncertainty in the whole process. I hadn't mentioned it before since it really isn't a big deal in the big picture.
Congrats.. and good to know that inspite of getting GC you have decided to stick with non-GC holders like us...
Thanks for your great efforts.
There are 2 current theories why:-
1. I'm very vocal in the media and lawmakers about the problem, and something made this happen (as my co-workers say "they gave it to you to shut you up")
2. I was a lucky one that was assigned a visa number in early June (when I applied for AOS) - it was approved when my PD was not current.
I'm not going anywhere, nothing has changed with the current policy. It is still broken. If for no other reason, the bizarre circumstances around my GC highlight more unpredictability and uncertainty in the whole process. I hadn't mentioned it before since it really isn't a big deal in the big picture.
Congrats.. and good to know that inspite of getting GC you have decided to stick with non-GC holders like us...
Thanks for your great efforts.
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amitjoey
05-27 05:48 PM
Thank you rajttu, nomad for your contributions.
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jthomas
03-14 11:25 PM
Should we send letters to the president about EB india category. The dates are moving very slowly..... etc..
we have to do something or it will take years to get GC
we have to do something or it will take years to get GC
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angelfire76
02-15 02:32 AM
You have a great plan, come to US on H1 and within 6 months get EAD and you are free from H1b crackdown by jumping to EAD. You think USCIS, Grasley, sanders, and anti eb folks are a bunch of idiots, they will send you and me packing with the same rfe they are hitting h1 folks with if everybody gets to pre file AOS and get EAD. that is why you need to strengthen ac21 by removing same\semilar job condition and other potential h1 like rfe's, otherwise you will drag us down along with you and turn ead into h1.
How tough it is to get PERM approval nowadays with the economy being what it is. Previously we had some reasonable times, but now every application is being scrutinized closely. It's not as easy as 6 months after landing in the US to get PERM approval and be able to file for EAD.
Your arguments have a flavor of "Let me in and shut the door". So please go away and start your own thread for reforming AC21.
How tough it is to get PERM approval nowadays with the economy being what it is. Previously we had some reasonable times, but now every application is being scrutinized closely. It's not as easy as 6 months after landing in the US to get PERM approval and be able to file for EAD.
Your arguments have a flavor of "Let me in and shut the door". So please go away and start your own thread for reforming AC21.
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abhijitp
11-15 07:15 PM
I totally understand the push from IV to encourage state chapters and build grassroots strength to this movement.
Join the state chapter : IV does not have a state chapter in the state I live in - Nebraska,: So I thought I would start one and wrote to IV ...after initial response from IV , there has been no progress .
Start contributing: I have already contributed $100 and will contribute further as and when I can.
Volunteer for IV: Volunteered to start the state chapter.
Well I have done my bit so hopefully I will not be disparaged for making comments on this issue,
Singlemost big bottleneck is lack of "Visa Numbers"...
485 applications pending :~340,000( ~ 320,000(recent flood) + ~20,000 SWAG on previously pending ).
visa numbers have been lost in the recent past - ~200,000 (This is the number thrown around)
Visa numbers available if we recapture :~340,000 (200,000 + 140,000 of this years quota)
So, if we had not lost those numbers, retrogression would be minimal/reasonable.
We could have even accommodated the skewness of India & china numbers, because each year India & China would have been benefitted by unused ROW numbers.
From my above understanding, the quota(140,000) fixed seems to be fine/reasonable, though per country quota is extremely unrealistic. But even this will not hurt much as long as unused numbers are used up by year end.
IMHO, demanding recapture is more an easy/winnable/achievable argument than the one to raise the quota itself .
Because the reason the visa numbers were lost is purely due to incompetencies of two federal institutions. State Dept and USCIS.
For two and half years (05 - 07 June) they artificially retrogressed the dates
way back to 1999 - 2001.
This prevented any approvals and new applications even though plenty of visa numbers were available(~ 200,000 cumulative).
For congress/senate it is easy to make their case for recapture citing incompetencies of these institutions rather than making case for "INCREASE" in numbers.
Many ways to achieve this objective- Ask for increase and settle for recapture.
Anyway - My point is Recapture will solve most of our problems and we should channel most of our resources to achieve this objective.
Great initiative setting up your state chapter! Thanks, and good luck!
Now, recapturing wasted visa numbers is (IMO) obviously on the agenda. However, as you know almost everything has to happen via a change in the legislation. This is doable, but will require months, if not years, of careful planning and execution. That is why the need to strengthen the organization at the grass roots level.
Appreciate your post, thanks!
Join the state chapter : IV does not have a state chapter in the state I live in - Nebraska,: So I thought I would start one and wrote to IV ...after initial response from IV , there has been no progress .
Start contributing: I have already contributed $100 and will contribute further as and when I can.
Volunteer for IV: Volunteered to start the state chapter.
Well I have done my bit so hopefully I will not be disparaged for making comments on this issue,
Singlemost big bottleneck is lack of "Visa Numbers"...
485 applications pending :~340,000( ~ 320,000(recent flood) + ~20,000 SWAG on previously pending ).
visa numbers have been lost in the recent past - ~200,000 (This is the number thrown around)
Visa numbers available if we recapture :~340,000 (200,000 + 140,000 of this years quota)
So, if we had not lost those numbers, retrogression would be minimal/reasonable.
We could have even accommodated the skewness of India & china numbers, because each year India & China would have been benefitted by unused ROW numbers.
From my above understanding, the quota(140,000) fixed seems to be fine/reasonable, though per country quota is extremely unrealistic. But even this will not hurt much as long as unused numbers are used up by year end.
IMHO, demanding recapture is more an easy/winnable/achievable argument than the one to raise the quota itself .
Because the reason the visa numbers were lost is purely due to incompetencies of two federal institutions. State Dept and USCIS.
For two and half years (05 - 07 June) they artificially retrogressed the dates
way back to 1999 - 2001.
This prevented any approvals and new applications even though plenty of visa numbers were available(~ 200,000 cumulative).
For congress/senate it is easy to make their case for recapture citing incompetencies of these institutions rather than making case for "INCREASE" in numbers.
Many ways to achieve this objective- Ask for increase and settle for recapture.
Anyway - My point is Recapture will solve most of our problems and we should channel most of our resources to achieve this objective.
Great initiative setting up your state chapter! Thanks, and good luck!
Now, recapturing wasted visa numbers is (IMO) obviously on the agenda. However, as you know almost everything has to happen via a change in the legislation. This is doable, but will require months, if not years, of careful planning and execution. That is why the need to strengthen the organization at the grass roots level.
Appreciate your post, thanks!
vbkris77
03-05 10:01 AM
I don't know if we stand a chance to define anything here. But if it is requested, I guess, they should give it. But help with Sorting, Are we asking them the actual list or just aggregate numbers?
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bfadlia
01-13 04:42 PM
you are half right, the country quota laws were put much earlier than the off shoring companies, but remember that the retrogression only started in the last 10 years when those companies came in the picture and skewed the lines .. that's ur cause and effect!
I am in software and would be satisfied with resticting this rule to the software field, but feasibility wise, rules won't get micro-tailored this way.
I always tell myself i shouldn't go on with the discussion, but here i go again..
any 12 step process to quit?
You're confusing the cause-and-effect. The country quota laws were put in MUCH earlier than any offshoring companies started doing H1s. It might in fact be the opposite, meaning that these companies are hiring qualified people who weren't getting GCs.
And besides these companies are all software cos that came up in the last 10 yrs, why should that stupid rule affect any person in a non-software field?
Yes we know that the current rules make the journey longer. The point is that it is unfair and that's why we should start trying to change it!
Basically it is very difficult to understand another person's pain. Especially when you're set up to gain from it.
I am in software and would be satisfied with resticting this rule to the software field, but feasibility wise, rules won't get micro-tailored this way.
I always tell myself i shouldn't go on with the discussion, but here i go again..
any 12 step process to quit?
You're confusing the cause-and-effect. The country quota laws were put in MUCH earlier than any offshoring companies started doing H1s. It might in fact be the opposite, meaning that these companies are hiring qualified people who weren't getting GCs.
And besides these companies are all software cos that came up in the last 10 yrs, why should that stupid rule affect any person in a non-software field?
Yes we know that the current rules make the journey longer. The point is that it is unfair and that's why we should start trying to change it!
Basically it is very difficult to understand another person's pain. Especially when you're set up to gain from it.
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chanduv23
09-04 01:06 PM
You are right! But many others do! And many that currently don't are just misinformed, and I believe that they can have a change of heart and attend the rally once they see it is the right thing to do!
Persistence from all of us is the key here. U r doing a great job :)
Persistence from all of us is the key here. U r doing a great job :)
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shyamsk
05-20 06:13 PM
Hi Everyone,
After checking in google, I found this information and felt very happy about it.
Until yesterday I was not aware of this condition and expecting the benefit from IRS. After checking the IRS schedule and validating the benefit, I was shocked when it said not eligible because of ITIN reasons. Initially I thought it was a mistake by IRS and called them up but there was no answer.
Now, I have little hope that they'll classify people who filed H1+H4 jointly should atleast consider for $600 benefit. I'm with two children and had initially high hope and a long list for spending the amount. But now that is all past....
I would like to thank you everyone for taking this step of passing on the information and following up with legal, SSA & IRS authorities. Please do let everyone in the list know if as a group anything can be done. I would also like to share towards it. I live Redmond, WA.
This is not right when other people who filed singly received the money not we. We're treated as illegal and I believe this is a discrimination for this group of people.
Shyam.
After checking in google, I found this information and felt very happy about it.
Until yesterday I was not aware of this condition and expecting the benefit from IRS. After checking the IRS schedule and validating the benefit, I was shocked when it said not eligible because of ITIN reasons. Initially I thought it was a mistake by IRS and called them up but there was no answer.
Now, I have little hope that they'll classify people who filed H1+H4 jointly should atleast consider for $600 benefit. I'm with two children and had initially high hope and a long list for spending the amount. But now that is all past....
I would like to thank you everyone for taking this step of passing on the information and following up with legal, SSA & IRS authorities. Please do let everyone in the list know if as a group anything can be done. I would also like to share towards it. I live Redmond, WA.
This is not right when other people who filed singly received the money not we. We're treated as illegal and I believe this is a discrimination for this group of people.
Shyam.
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pmat
09-25 10:44 PM
I don't have any choice other than going with Fragomen because of employer restrictions... they are very slow... I have found that they only respond to the HR emails -- they will never respond to your emails and you will keep on waiting for replies for weeks together...
My LC was approved in Feb.. they took 4 months to prepare and file my I140 application which is most probably the simplest application.... After the dates became current in June - they took 10 days to send me a list of documents required for I485 despite several emails... That too happened after HR intervention.
I am fortunate that my GC process was started by other law firm... They filed my application in EB2 otherwise I am pretty sure that Fragomen would have gone for EB3. I have been with another law firm that started my GC process,,, and trust me -- it was much much better than Fragomen in spite of being a large law firm.
Fragomen should stop taking clients if they cannot handle the load... Phone calls made to their lawyers/paralegals always go to voicemail --
Don't use them if you have a choice.
My LC was approved in Feb.. they took 4 months to prepare and file my I140 application which is most probably the simplest application.... After the dates became current in June - they took 10 days to send me a list of documents required for I485 despite several emails... That too happened after HR intervention.
I am fortunate that my GC process was started by other law firm... They filed my application in EB2 otherwise I am pretty sure that Fragomen would have gone for EB3. I have been with another law firm that started my GC process,,, and trust me -- it was much much better than Fragomen in spite of being a large law firm.
Fragomen should stop taking clients if they cannot handle the load... Phone calls made to their lawyers/paralegals always go to voicemail --
Don't use them if you have a choice.
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Jaime
09-20 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by H1B2GC
I don't personally think we had much media coverage except some hidden links, can we post some paid adds where everyone can get know what we are addressing in here i.e., on the front page of google, yahoo, msn, cnn, etc. I know some people might have second thoughts as it involves $ but I'm ready for it to get public attention. There is a thin line between legal and illigal and they are ready to club both together for their benefits. I'm starting to wonder how many people know what is going on, we have to educate them first.
I support this, and am ready to contribute $, time and sweat. We need visibility. Our main goal is to EDUCATE people, (and even the government!) that we are the totally opposite of illegals! The Congressman who spoke at our rally had a lot of good intentions, but then he started talking about how "illegal immigrants are also people who look like me"(meaning Caucasian/White) and he mentioned the thousands of illegal Irish immigrants living in Boston, who have a group called "Legalize the Irish Now".... those comments had no place in our rally of highly-skilled LEGAL immigrants! And that was a Congressman talking. EDUCATION IS THE WORD, and we need to invest in it NOW!! Let's go guys! Ideas!???
Originally Posted by H1B2GC
I don't personally think we had much media coverage except some hidden links, can we post some paid adds where everyone can get know what we are addressing in here i.e., on the front page of google, yahoo, msn, cnn, etc. I know some people might have second thoughts as it involves $ but I'm ready for it to get public attention. There is a thin line between legal and illigal and they are ready to club both together for their benefits. I'm starting to wonder how many people know what is going on, we have to educate them first.
I support this, and am ready to contribute $, time and sweat. We need visibility. Our main goal is to EDUCATE people, (and even the government!) that we are the totally opposite of illegals! The Congressman who spoke at our rally had a lot of good intentions, but then he started talking about how "illegal immigrants are also people who look like me"(meaning Caucasian/White) and he mentioned the thousands of illegal Irish immigrants living in Boston, who have a group called "Legalize the Irish Now".... those comments had no place in our rally of highly-skilled LEGAL immigrants! And that was a Congressman talking. EDUCATION IS THE WORD, and we need to invest in it NOW!! Let's go guys! Ideas!???
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 12:02 PM
I received the same response. I am in for contribution.
Please vote and respond here:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=323744#post323744
Please vote and respond here:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=323744#post323744
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user1205
09-17 04:51 PM
and if not current at least closer to our time :)
oh.... i see....thats how it works...
I just wonder how long it will be untill EB3 ROW is current. ???
oh.... i see....thats how it works...
I just wonder how long it will be untill EB3 ROW is current. ???
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LostInGCProcess
08-21 09:11 PM
When did you send your application.
I am in the same boat waiting for their call. :D
I sent in the middle of July.
I am in the same boat waiting for their call. :D
I sent in the middle of July.
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GreenMe
05-19 09:24 PM
Thanks IV - contributed $100 and encouraged other friends to do the same.
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shaikhshehzadali
03-21 03:38 PM
Get a life.....As far as immigration is concerned...I know more laws than u could possibly think of..I have been in this immigration hell for more time than possibly u could think of...I am just asking u to read a few times before u post...
Being an Indian does matter in this discussion....in most of ur post ...u r referencing people from ROW...I understand what they would be feeling...that FYI was for u to understand that if I could get offended then people from ROW surely will...
there r lot of people on EB3 ROW who are either nurses, engineers etc...They are well qualified...and u don't have a right to call them unskilled...Period..End the discussion
OOOPs you are an Indian.... and how does that affect this discussion?
My mistake .... I thought you were a normal person discussing immigration related matters on an immigration forum and hence have the ability to discern, understand and have some background on immigration law, USCIS
Being an Indian does matter in this discussion....in most of ur post ...u r referencing people from ROW...I understand what they would be feeling...that FYI was for u to understand that if I could get offended then people from ROW surely will...
there r lot of people on EB3 ROW who are either nurses, engineers etc...They are well qualified...and u don't have a right to call them unskilled...Period..End the discussion
OOOPs you are an Indian.... and how does that affect this discussion?
My mistake .... I thought you were a normal person discussing immigration related matters on an immigration forum and hence have the ability to discern, understand and have some background on immigration law, USCIS
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eb3_nepa
06-25 05:22 PM
Actually you are partly right. Only those who had paid the revised higher fee last year are eligible to get renewals for free. All those who had paid the regular fee (July filers) pay for renewal everytime
Yes and ALL July 2nd Filers HAVE to pay the EAD and AP fees over and over again. Coz everyone that benefitted from the July 2nd drama was not granted the multiple ead renewal free deal. I am VERY sure about that.
Yes and ALL July 2nd Filers HAVE to pay the EAD and AP fees over and over again. Coz everyone that benefitted from the July 2nd drama was not granted the multiple ead renewal free deal. I am VERY sure about that.
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Bloomington
07-15 04:03 PM
Let�s say I receive my Green Card in couple of months .now my situation. Right now I am on EAD, Single and EB2 current. And I am planning to go to India to get marry ( if I find any girl but you know how its goes) . but my Green card is coming before may wedding so I can not add my wife in 485 ��now I can try F1 but lets say she got rejected and also she is not able to get H1B ( and you know F1 is not sure VISA) �.so what are my options to bring her in USA .
One option I can sponsor her on family base but it will take 5 years to bring her in US. so I want guidance in this I am sure there are lot of people like me .
One option I can sponsor her on family base but it will take 5 years to bring her in US. so I want guidance in this I am sure there are lot of people like me .
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abhijitp
02-11 01:44 AM
Norcal added 190 to the tally over this weekend!
Go IV, go Norcal.
Go IV, go Norcal.
trueguy
07-23 12:56 PM
You can apply for ITIN even if your spouse is not in US. I have done it ealrier but the only condition is she shouldhave visited US on dependent visa last year for your to claim?
-Udaya.
My wife never been to US and I am married for 2 years now. I have been filing my return as Single.
Last week I talked to IRS and they said I can apply for her ITIN without her being present in US. The condition of visiting US applied to other dependents and not for the spouse. She has to sign my tax return though that I have to mail it to her and she will mail it back to me with her signature.
Not sure how true is that and I don't know if I should give it a try or not.
Thanks.
-Udaya.
My wife never been to US and I am married for 2 years now. I have been filing my return as Single.
Last week I talked to IRS and they said I can apply for her ITIN without her being present in US. The condition of visiting US applied to other dependents and not for the spouse. She has to sign my tax return though that I have to mail it to her and she will mail it back to me with her signature.
Not sure how true is that and I don't know if I should give it a try or not.
Thanks.
eb3India
12-10 10:20 AM
Visiting IV webiste after long time, (yes I got my GC :) ), feel nothing has changed, another flaming post from logiclife and he hopes it will touch egos of those ( as he calls them cowards), but my friend their skin so thick they won't even feel it,
I have been in this position, when I tried to start state chapter, I was not able to find single person, At that time I had EAD and sucessfully changed jobs, I knew many friends who were still in H1B and crib on every time how they have been exploited,
Anyway one thing comes to my mind, it still amazes how Mahatma Gandhi was able to inspire people out of this lot to do what they did
I have been in this position, when I tried to start state chapter, I was not able to find single person, At that time I had EAD and sucessfully changed jobs, I knew many friends who were still in H1B and crib on every time how they have been exploited,
Anyway one thing comes to my mind, it still amazes how Mahatma Gandhi was able to inspire people out of this lot to do what they did
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