greendream
07-17 01:40 PM
Gurus,
I would like to discuss about changing from EB3 India category to EB2 India category. Currently the PD for EB3 India is somewhere in October 2001. We know people with PD November 2001 to current waiting for GC to get approved. Now the questions I have and topic I would like to discuss are,
1. Do you guys think that people with PD November 2001 to November 2002 should change the category from EB3 to EB2? (If they are eligible and if they want)
If you have any reason that these people should stay where they are and wait, please share your opinion.
2. Do you think that that people with PD November 2002 to November 2003 should change the category from EB3 to EB2?
3. What about people with PD after January 2004?
4. Where do we draw the line? We need to help our community to make the best decision on whether to move it EB2 category or stay where they are.
Thanks.
G.
I would like to discuss about changing from EB3 India category to EB2 India category. Currently the PD for EB3 India is somewhere in October 2001. We know people with PD November 2001 to current waiting for GC to get approved. Now the questions I have and topic I would like to discuss are,
1. Do you guys think that people with PD November 2001 to November 2002 should change the category from EB3 to EB2? (If they are eligible and if they want)
If you have any reason that these people should stay where they are and wait, please share your opinion.
2. Do you think that that people with PD November 2002 to November 2003 should change the category from EB3 to EB2?
3. What about people with PD after January 2004?
4. Where do we draw the line? We need to help our community to make the best decision on whether to move it EB2 category or stay where they are.
Thanks.
G.
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mariner5555
03-16 07:02 AM
the good point is that lot of people till end 2003 got their GC's in states like georgia. I guess many people in states like california must have gone to EB2 or gone back to their countries. lot of companies closed their shops but at the same time there was lot of labor substitution. I guess at this point EB3 - (I) cannot do much except pray and sleep(and hope one of the advisors to the president / congressmen tell them that more or speedy legal immigration actually helps US (in housing / SSN mess / medicare / tech innovation / outsourcing etc etc).
I was talking to a manager (naturalized citizen) of a top company and he said the same ..baby boomers are /will be retiring and you will see more old people in usa rather than youngsters - this is the most important advantage that countries like china and India have (young population).
as EB2(I) and world wide dates starts to move ahead - I guess future support to IV (or any campaigns) would continue to diminish
I was talking to a manager (naturalized citizen) of a top company and he said the same ..baby boomers are /will be retiring and you will see more old people in usa rather than youngsters - this is the most important advantage that countries like china and India have (young population).
as EB2(I) and world wide dates starts to move ahead - I guess future support to IV (or any campaigns) would continue to diminish
Totoro
05-11 08:38 PM
I am working on this with some lawyers, so be patient. The Stimulus payment is a benefit, regardless of what the SSA says, but you don't need to do anything else now. Just keep any communications you have with them in case you need to refer to them later. You do not need to have an SSN in 2008, since you can apply for the stimulus payment in 2009 if you did not get it in 2008. This rule is posted on the IRS website. I also have significant documentation the PROVES this is a benefit, in addition to the material I posted in the OP.
From the Wikipedia article that you referred to:
Federal Benefits
The transfer of money, property, services, or anything of value, the principal purpose of which is to accomplish a public purpose of support or stimulation authorized by Federal statute,…and includes, but is not limited to, grants, loans, loan guarantees, scholarships, mortgage loans, insurance…, property, technical assistance, counseling, statistical, and other expert information; and service activities of regulatory agencies.
Also, the SSA defines a benefit as follows:
20 CFR Part 422 [Reg. No. 22] RIN 0960-AF05 Evidence Requirements for Assignment of Social Security Numbers (SSNs); Assignment of SSNs for Nonwork Purposes, a "valid non-work purpose" results when the "law requires an alien who is legally in the U.S. to have an SSN in order to receive general public assistance benefits (i.e., a public benefit that is means-tested) to which the alien has established Entitlement."
I have a ton of documentation to support our case, but I don't want to post it here until I have had a chance to discuss our strategy with the lawyers who are working on this.
Please do not refer to the stimulus payment as a rebate in any communications you have. It is not a rebate, which implies the return of money paid. Many people who earn no taxable income can apply for the stimulus payment. This makes it different from any tax scheme. The fact that the IRS administers the program does not prove that it is a tax program. Moreover, official IRS documents refer to the stimulus payment as a benefit similar to food stamps, not a rebate.
From the Wikipedia article that you referred to:
Federal Benefits
The transfer of money, property, services, or anything of value, the principal purpose of which is to accomplish a public purpose of support or stimulation authorized by Federal statute,…and includes, but is not limited to, grants, loans, loan guarantees, scholarships, mortgage loans, insurance…, property, technical assistance, counseling, statistical, and other expert information; and service activities of regulatory agencies.
Also, the SSA defines a benefit as follows:
20 CFR Part 422 [Reg. No. 22] RIN 0960-AF05 Evidence Requirements for Assignment of Social Security Numbers (SSNs); Assignment of SSNs for Nonwork Purposes, a "valid non-work purpose" results when the "law requires an alien who is legally in the U.S. to have an SSN in order to receive general public assistance benefits (i.e., a public benefit that is means-tested) to which the alien has established Entitlement."
I have a ton of documentation to support our case, but I don't want to post it here until I have had a chance to discuss our strategy with the lawyers who are working on this.
Please do not refer to the stimulus payment as a rebate in any communications you have. It is not a rebate, which implies the return of money paid. Many people who earn no taxable income can apply for the stimulus payment. This makes it different from any tax scheme. The fact that the IRS administers the program does not prove that it is a tax program. Moreover, official IRS documents refer to the stimulus payment as a benefit similar to food stamps, not a rebate.
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visves
02-13 08:22 AM
It's not change in leadership, but a change in the quality of membership that is needed! As somebody mentioned, we need members who are patient and can contribute constructively and most importantly trust the folks who are leading from the front to do what is right.
Really have a feeling that most of all this stink and nonsense is being propogated by folks from programmers guild/numbers USA. Not a day goes by without somebody posting a distracting message.
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Really have a feeling that most of all this stink and nonsense is being propogated by folks from programmers guild/numbers USA. Not a day goes by without somebody posting a distracting message.
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
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Hermione
09-27 01:49 PM
That is actually not true. Approval will not become quicker if speed is not improved.
The ONLY reason there were a LOT of approvals in May through Sept was that there was a sudden jump in PDs that allowed a LOT of people whose applications had been approved pending visa availability could finally be assigned a number. USCIS didn't all of a sudden dramatically increase their productivity, there were just a lot of people waiting for that number.
Of course, Numbers matters too - but more numbers without extra speed will get us nowhere. If that were to happen, there would just be more visas wasted each year that we'd be asking for recapture
But I do agree that "skilled and diversity" makes no sense.
Could you please translate this into layman's English? What you appear to be saying is that speed (CIS efficiency) is more important than number (quotas), but your expample confirms that cases are stuck because of number unavailability (quotas), not because of CIS inefficiency. You got your own green card in three months, did not you? That tells me that CIS darn well capable of processing applications in a timely manner.
The ONLY reason there were a LOT of approvals in May through Sept was that there was a sudden jump in PDs that allowed a LOT of people whose applications had been approved pending visa availability could finally be assigned a number. USCIS didn't all of a sudden dramatically increase their productivity, there were just a lot of people waiting for that number.
Of course, Numbers matters too - but more numbers without extra speed will get us nowhere. If that were to happen, there would just be more visas wasted each year that we'd be asking for recapture
But I do agree that "skilled and diversity" makes no sense.
Could you please translate this into layman's English? What you appear to be saying is that speed (CIS efficiency) is more important than number (quotas), but your expample confirms that cases are stuck because of number unavailability (quotas), not because of CIS inefficiency. You got your own green card in three months, did not you? That tells me that CIS darn well capable of processing applications in a timely manner.
iOptimist
09-20 02:09 PM
Can we form a Human Chain protest across the major cities of the country at a predefined date and time. for instance, say Nov 9th between 11.AM and 1 PM.
This way more local people, across the country, can participate and as the timing is around lunch hours, I presume many of us can get back to work within the two hour duration.
May be this decentralized & concerted effort in all major cities/states across the country at a specified time may gather main stream media attention.
This is just a thought...
-iOptimist
This way more local people, across the country, can participate and as the timing is around lunch hours, I presume many of us can get back to work within the two hour duration.
May be this decentralized & concerted effort in all major cities/states across the country at a specified time may gather main stream media attention.
This is just a thought...
-iOptimist
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chanduv23
09-24 11:22 PM
yes I 140 has been approved in Feb o7.
Let me wait for actual denial letter.
It seems that is the best option at this point for me.
- Thanks
Looks like USCIS is sending more denial letters on AC21 cases these days, a lot of VOs may not have been trained on AC21.
I took infopass this week to find out status of my case (AC21 responded to NOID and case reopened and lot of soft LUDs) - the VO was trying to be judgemental instead of looking at computer and answer my question. She said "If you change job and 140 is revoked, there is no way your 485 will get approved" and when I insisted her to look at computer and let me know status, after some nagging, she looked and told me case is pending and NC cleared and I will receive a decision sometime but not very soon.
Believe me, a lot of VOs do not know AC21 stuff.
Let me wait for actual denial letter.
It seems that is the best option at this point for me.
- Thanks
Looks like USCIS is sending more denial letters on AC21 cases these days, a lot of VOs may not have been trained on AC21.
I took infopass this week to find out status of my case (AC21 responded to NOID and case reopened and lot of soft LUDs) - the VO was trying to be judgemental instead of looking at computer and answer my question. She said "If you change job and 140 is revoked, there is no way your 485 will get approved" and when I insisted her to look at computer and let me know status, after some nagging, she looked and told me case is pending and NC cleared and I will receive a decision sometime but not very soon.
Believe me, a lot of VOs do not know AC21 stuff.
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kc_p21
12-10 03:31 PM
Why don't you shut up? along with Logiclife?
Bill O' Rielly does it too. And he is a successful professional. So I guess it is ok to ask someone to shut up.
Bill O' Rielly does it too. And he is a successful professional. So I guess it is ok to ask someone to shut up.
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aeroterp
06-20 08:36 AM
I for one think that the SKIL provisions will be in the manager's package like last year.
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x1050us
03-05 02:32 PM
Another FOIA case http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aG0_2ZIA96TI&refer=home
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jnagendra
07-17 08:03 PM
I am EB-3 ROW PD 2007 Aug. Reading all the Eb-3 I people's angry, I started to wonder what's gonna happen to the EB-3 ROW. Seems like if lots of Eb3-I change to EB2-I , They will probably eat up all the Spillover from Eb1, EB2 ROW from now on. That makes EB-3 ROW and EB-3 I become the same boat.
Is it what gonna happened?
All Indians and Chinese will file only EB2 now onwards:D
The problem is with past filings how to convert them to EB2.
Is it what gonna happened?
All Indians and Chinese will file only EB2 now onwards:D
The problem is with past filings how to convert them to EB2.
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SmSm
12-01 10:50 AM
Lets NOT do a hunger strike.
Think of something that is unique, gets media attention, something that has not been done, but conveys the message in a very subtle way and yet is very powerful and will create a lump in the throat.
Free math turoring, free SAT preperation classes, you get the idea....
Think of something that is unique, gets media attention, something that has not been done, but conveys the message in a very subtle way and yet is very powerful and will create a lump in the throat.
Free math turoring, free SAT preperation classes, you get the idea....
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javadeveloper
10-29 11:03 AM
I sent the following documents for AP E-Filing
2 Passport Photos
Do we need to write A# on back of the Passport Photos??? I missed to write.
2 Passport Photos
Do we need to write A# on back of the Passport Photos??? I missed to write.
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iwantlabor
06-14 10:09 AM
My company does not allow us to pay for our own labor. It is against the law. My company was not doing new perm labors for people who had already applied in regular processing.
Coming to present situation, my company attorneys are so overloaded with labor work that they have become very slow in responding. Now it will be even worse since everybody will be applying for 485. I feel they have created a choas.
Look, i sympathize with you but you SHOULD HAVE poured in some money to start a parallel PERM application ..... PERM started from APR 2005 - you got almost 2 years +
My case is also like you but my Labor was 2 years old and applied just
before PERM and it went straightway to Phily Backlog center ... I thought
of applying for a Parallel PERM but mine was a RIR ( quicker) and Phily was saying that they would clear all Backog by SEP 2007 ( another 2 months)
Did you check your status in Backlog tracker ??
http://pds.pbls.doleta.gov/
Coming to present situation, my company attorneys are so overloaded with labor work that they have become very slow in responding. Now it will be even worse since everybody will be applying for 485. I feel they have created a choas.
Look, i sympathize with you but you SHOULD HAVE poured in some money to start a parallel PERM application ..... PERM started from APR 2005 - you got almost 2 years +
My case is also like you but my Labor was 2 years old and applied just
before PERM and it went straightway to Phily Backlog center ... I thought
of applying for a Parallel PERM but mine was a RIR ( quicker) and Phily was saying that they would clear all Backog by SEP 2007 ( another 2 months)
Did you check your status in Backlog tracker ??
http://pds.pbls.doleta.gov/
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reddymjm
06-15 09:58 PM
Understood every point of yours & I stand by what you said except for the language as it could have been a bit better. Regarding EB3 or EB2, maybe IV should work attaching a provision as part of its CIR work, which makes USCIS determine whether a candidate is in EB3 or EB2 based on the PERM & 140 instead of letting companies & attorneys mention it. If this happens the process will be much better as USCIS controls the categories & applicants do not need to beg a company to throw them into an EB2 basket or EB3 basket. Also, applicants can have certain amount of freedom from the companies.
When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.
Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.
Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.
Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.
Good Luck guys...
When a process is flawed, there is always room for abuse. Of course, the abuse might be minimal, but when we see people with masters & 15 years of experience toiling in EB3 category it pains my heart. It is a fact there could be lesser qualified inidividuals who are in EB2 category, but the companies have managed to use these to hold the employees as hostage.
Hopefully USCIS someday understands this and takes control of assigning applicants into categories than asking company & attorney to mention.
Just sharing my two cents. Also, frustrations from EB3 should be tolerated by IV members, instead of beating them with "red dots". Because if we request members to put their time and effort then it would be mostly EB3 members as they are the "worst" affected. I am sure every year between july-sept most of EB2 members will do bulletin-watching & there is nothing wrong in it.
Next year by this time only EB3 will be here and I dont think many of the EB2 will even bother to read the forum. God bless EB3. Even for those guys with PD in 2003 if you think that you will be lucky in year or two, try buying lottery tickets too. You might win a jackpot.
Good Luck guys...
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papyros
08-09 03:16 AM
Hi All,
Andrew Dutton - 917-536-5940, immigration_counselor@yahoo.com is my attorney for green card. I had also used him before for H1B renewal, PERM & I-140 substitution with DOL (while case was pending with Backlog Center). He is very professional, humble, and always answers phone calls & email messages immediately. He is also very very affordable (shall I say inexpensive - see the amounts he charged me for H1B, green card processing etc below).
I was one of the unfortunate ones who got scammed my Earl David Associates (New York Law Firm) - now renamed to Jed David Philwin Associates. I know how bad law firms can be - they did not file my LC in 2003 but kept on telling me that they did - ONLY a year after in 2004 they promised me they had already done so. Needless to say how much pain suffering this caused me.
I used Andrew for my H1B + wife's H4 renewal - total attorney fees - $550. No extra fees for filing documents for family members.
Then, I used him for EB2 PERM, I-140, I-485/EAD/AP (for myself & my wife) - total attorney fees - $1600. No extra fees for filing documents for family members.
I had an existing LC approved from Backlog Center - he filed I-140 for just $100-$150 attorney fees - stating that since he had already filed a previous I-140 for me - he just needs to modify some minor details on the I-140 & file it.
He filed my I-485 over the weekend so it reached USCIS on Monday July 2 - who knows I may be one of the lucky ones when July visa bulletin fiasco is resolved.
Regarding, Philwin associates they're big time scammers...they've taken from me $5000 without giving me not even a receipt or send me the retainment and dissapeared specifically avoid fake lawyer Michael (MIKE) Venieris. I'm personally taking them to court so spread the word. Does anyone know where submit a complaint for them to the IRS and the lawyers association? However, SPREAD THE WORD so at least to take them out of the market!!
Andrew Dutton - 917-536-5940, immigration_counselor@yahoo.com is my attorney for green card. I had also used him before for H1B renewal, PERM & I-140 substitution with DOL (while case was pending with Backlog Center). He is very professional, humble, and always answers phone calls & email messages immediately. He is also very very affordable (shall I say inexpensive - see the amounts he charged me for H1B, green card processing etc below).
I was one of the unfortunate ones who got scammed my Earl David Associates (New York Law Firm) - now renamed to Jed David Philwin Associates. I know how bad law firms can be - they did not file my LC in 2003 but kept on telling me that they did - ONLY a year after in 2004 they promised me they had already done so. Needless to say how much pain suffering this caused me.
I used Andrew for my H1B + wife's H4 renewal - total attorney fees - $550. No extra fees for filing documents for family members.
Then, I used him for EB2 PERM, I-140, I-485/EAD/AP (for myself & my wife) - total attorney fees - $1600. No extra fees for filing documents for family members.
I had an existing LC approved from Backlog Center - he filed I-140 for just $100-$150 attorney fees - stating that since he had already filed a previous I-140 for me - he just needs to modify some minor details on the I-140 & file it.
He filed my I-485 over the weekend so it reached USCIS on Monday July 2 - who knows I may be one of the lucky ones when July visa bulletin fiasco is resolved.
Regarding, Philwin associates they're big time scammers...they've taken from me $5000 without giving me not even a receipt or send me the retainment and dissapeared specifically avoid fake lawyer Michael (MIKE) Venieris. I'm personally taking them to court so spread the word. Does anyone know where submit a complaint for them to the IRS and the lawyers association? However, SPREAD THE WORD so at least to take them out of the market!!
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hebbar77
04-10 11:33 AM
that's ok, you are eb2. so no worries, totally understand. no one is asking you to donate, did u get a personal email or phone call from me asking you to donate? You came to this thread, read my post, felt guilty conscious, and thought someone is asking you to donate, and came up with an absurd reason not to contribute. who asked you to contribute in the first place?
History? your I-485 was applied on 2nd July, 2007. Do u know the history of why u'r AOS was not thrown out the window because CIS reversed the visa bulletin? Who cares, as long as you are in the queue and others are paying for your free lunch.
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I am not saying that you sent me personal request to donate, go through this website and you will see what I am talking abt.
that sounds like july second fiasco reversal from USCIS was affected by IV... I dont believe so.
I would not try to get the ocean level up by throwing pennies into it.
History? your I-485 was applied on 2nd July, 2007. Do u know the history of why u'r AOS was not thrown out the window because CIS reversed the visa bulletin? Who cares, as long as you are in the queue and others are paying for your free lunch.
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I am not saying that you sent me personal request to donate, go through this website and you will see what I am talking abt.
that sounds like july second fiasco reversal from USCIS was affected by IV... I dont believe so.
I would not try to get the ocean level up by throwing pennies into it.
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logiclife
12-01 11:25 AM
I dont mean to discourage folks here...
But here is what I have seen more often with MBA. Techies like programmers, business analysts in IT sector have done their MBAs from good schools and ended up doing the same job EVEN WITH GREENCARDS.
I have seen GC holders doing MBA and then after finishing MBA ending up with same job description with a 5% increase in pay.
So please do your research in HOW MBA is going to help you in your situation. Your job and your INTENDED JOB POST MBA may not really need you to have an MBA. And I have seen this way too often. So think before you pluck down 30,000 dollars on a degree that might do little benefit financially after you complete it.
But here is what I have seen more often with MBA. Techies like programmers, business analysts in IT sector have done their MBAs from good schools and ended up doing the same job EVEN WITH GREENCARDS.
I have seen GC holders doing MBA and then after finishing MBA ending up with same job description with a 5% increase in pay.
So please do your research in HOW MBA is going to help you in your situation. Your job and your INTENDED JOB POST MBA may not really need you to have an MBA. And I have seen this way too often. So think before you pluck down 30,000 dollars on a degree that might do little benefit financially after you complete it.
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nk2
06-13 07:24 PM
Still waiting for my Labor, But I am excited and happy for others who can apply now.
Hearty Congratulations!!
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LostInGCProcess
05-30 11:05 AM
I've never had such experiences with AF. They are not racist. Airlines are not allowed to issue transit visas and anyone who has lived in France can tell you how insensitive and lazy their bureaucracy is.
True, but Airline CAN give some 'guarantee' to get the transit visa for passengers. I flew Singapore Airline, and they arrange transit passenger to take a tour of the city, if the stopover is , i guess, more then 3 or 4 hrs.
So, I don't buy the argument that its not in their hand. If they wanted they could have done it. Period.
Bad flying experiences do not equate to racism. It is strong word to use and I do not think it applies to this case. Yes, I have seen French show racism towards Africans, but this is not one such case.
When one group right in front of your own eyes gets to stay in a hotel and the other group are left high and dry to loiter in the airport (citing they dont have transit visa), I call it absolutely a kind of Discrimination. I dont give a crap about Transit Visa.
There is a reason why Indians are required to take a transit visa. Coz, in the past there have been Indians (at EU airports) who have claimed that they have lost their memory, do not remember who they are, don't have any ID and hence qualify for asylum on medical grounds. Now these gov'ts are requiring ALL Indians to have a transit visa so that if anyone pulls such antics, they have all the information that they need to identify the individual and deport. Some bad apples have f&^%ed it up for all of us.
Wow!! you are generalizing here about one community here. So, you mean to say folks from Boston, US are going to runaway in Paris to seek asylum because they dont like the homes and jobs in US????? Yeah!!! Paris is a paradise, and everybody on this planet wants to somehow get there..
True, but Airline CAN give some 'guarantee' to get the transit visa for passengers. I flew Singapore Airline, and they arrange transit passenger to take a tour of the city, if the stopover is , i guess, more then 3 or 4 hrs.
So, I don't buy the argument that its not in their hand. If they wanted they could have done it. Period.
Bad flying experiences do not equate to racism. It is strong word to use and I do not think it applies to this case. Yes, I have seen French show racism towards Africans, but this is not one such case.
When one group right in front of your own eyes gets to stay in a hotel and the other group are left high and dry to loiter in the airport (citing they dont have transit visa), I call it absolutely a kind of Discrimination. I dont give a crap about Transit Visa.
There is a reason why Indians are required to take a transit visa. Coz, in the past there have been Indians (at EU airports) who have claimed that they have lost their memory, do not remember who they are, don't have any ID and hence qualify for asylum on medical grounds. Now these gov'ts are requiring ALL Indians to have a transit visa so that if anyone pulls such antics, they have all the information that they need to identify the individual and deport. Some bad apples have f&^%ed it up for all of us.
Wow!! you are generalizing here about one community here. So, you mean to say folks from Boston, US are going to runaway in Paris to seek asylum because they dont like the homes and jobs in US????? Yeah!!! Paris is a paradise, and everybody on this planet wants to somehow get there..
stucklabor
07-10 05:14 PM
I appreciate this update logiclife. This is all I (and I am sure many others) wanted, an update.
If you see any bad word in my post, you can delete it and you have power to delete it.
I felt thay many members asked for update (and I know there is no crtitical update) once in a while from IV core team.
Any post from a IV core member makes this forum alive again and boost member's moral, as It shows that IV is still working.
I posted a -ve post as I knew that you will post something in response to it, and hence proved.
But using words like "barking dogs", God, I was not expecting that.
Ghost, something must be missing in your character but I don't blame you, its bad parenting.
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ForeverGC, this is not the right way to ask for an update. You are like a spoilt child demanding attention by throwing a tantrum.
I don't understand the point of people constantly asking for updates. Guys, we are a small group of people - 5000 members, only 1000 contributing - a small piece of the battle currently being waged over undocumented workers and border security. What can we, the IV core team, tell you? Every update is pretty much the same - we are trying to talk to Congressmen and put some provisions in the SKILL bill or other bill. What do they tell us? Keep educating Congressmen about your provisions, the same as you did for the Senate, and wait for the opportune moment or legislation.
What is the point of hounding the core team for updates? And your post, ForeverGC, just made me want to resign from the core group as you just picked a fight with several people, one that we now have to step in to moderate. This is just a waste of energy for the people who have to moderate.
If you see any bad word in my post, you can delete it and you have power to delete it.
I felt thay many members asked for update (and I know there is no crtitical update) once in a while from IV core team.
Any post from a IV core member makes this forum alive again and boost member's moral, as It shows that IV is still working.
I posted a -ve post as I knew that you will post something in response to it, and hence proved.
But using words like "barking dogs", God, I was not expecting that.
Ghost, something must be missing in your character but I don't blame you, its bad parenting.
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ForeverGC, this is not the right way to ask for an update. You are like a spoilt child demanding attention by throwing a tantrum.
I don't understand the point of people constantly asking for updates. Guys, we are a small group of people - 5000 members, only 1000 contributing - a small piece of the battle currently being waged over undocumented workers and border security. What can we, the IV core team, tell you? Every update is pretty much the same - we are trying to talk to Congressmen and put some provisions in the SKILL bill or other bill. What do they tell us? Keep educating Congressmen about your provisions, the same as you did for the Senate, and wait for the opportune moment or legislation.
What is the point of hounding the core team for updates? And your post, ForeverGC, just made me want to resign from the core group as you just picked a fight with several people, one that we now have to step in to moderate. This is just a waste of energy for the people who have to moderate.
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