vdlrao
07-14 11:13 AM
So far there have been around 100k approvals in EB3 category out of about 170k (unused family visas made available to emploment based category) approvals in employment based category. Out of that EB2 approvals are around 50k only. Now the scenario would be like 100k approvals in EB2 and out of that 50k would be exclusively for EB2 India, leaving very little share to china. Now you could presume how fast EB2 runs.
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prabasiodia
07-17 07:51 PM
Nicely put paskal.
Let's do something (call Senators, Representatives, lobby) and put our collective strength behind getting those 200000 unused visas. RECAPTURE is the mantra .
you must know something i don't.
aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.
the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)
no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!
so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.
where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?
in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.
and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.
you opened my eyes :-)
Let's do something (call Senators, Representatives, lobby) and put our collective strength behind getting those 200000 unused visas. RECAPTURE is the mantra .
you must know something i don't.
aman kapoor is the president and founder of iv- of course you can argue he now has his GC but that fact is he is still the heart and soul of iv and runs the organization on a day to day basis. he is EB3.
the "core group" does not much exist in practical terms right now. there is instead a large "leaders group" that helps coordinate actions and strategy.
this group has a lot of active members- and i find it "comfortable" to say that the majority are EB3. which may actually count for something- since i actually do know somethings you don't :-)
no one stops anyone from doing anything. but whatever you do (and yes you actually have to DO, not just keep talking), has to have a sound basis. Many of the suggestions put forward have flaws, and actually papu and others have been pretty helpful in politely helping to point those out and suggesting changes. of course reddog took objection even to that! incidentally, just for the record, you may want to look at pappu's profile . HE IS EB3!
so what do you want anyway? should we go tell USCIS that leftover Gc from EB2 ROW should go to EB3 ROW instead of EB2 I/C? what about the 28.6% that should belong to EB2? and since you are EB3 I- how does this help you in any way? or should we tell them to stop the preference catogories in INA and make EB1=EB2=Eb3? somehow i do not think that is going to fly.
where were you when USCIS implemented vertical spillover in 2006 and left EB2 I in a U state while giving EB2 Gc numbers to EB3 ROW?
did you object then? did you start a campaign? did EB2 I folks here start saying that iv did not care about them?
in 2007 ordinarily, (like 06) EB2 I and EB3 I would have got only 2,800 GC each. because of iv's efforts in reversing the july bulletin, EB3 I got a huge number of Gc instead. many more than any other category. i don't remember anyone else standing up and saying that this was unfair and that iv is all about EB3I. and that's what a lot of anti iv folks say. that iv is all about EB3 India. so this is very ironical.
and i see here a comment that every campaign has been bad for EB3 india.
i guess july reversal was bad. i guess the campaign for recapture is bad. and the 2 year EAD is bad too. not to mention the gathering support to end country quotas.
you opened my eyes :-)
jnraajan
03-25 05:34 PM
There is no future for EB3. I have PD March 2005 but still have to wait PD to be current and then i have to apply for EAD. Where as my JOB requires EB2 but employer filed only in Eb3.
Dont worry.. More and More people are converting from Eb3 to Eb2 of late. Very soon, there will be a huge backlog for Eb2 and then Eb3 will move forward :)
Dont worry.. More and More people are converting from Eb3 to Eb2 of late. Very soon, there will be a huge backlog for Eb2 and then Eb3 will move forward :)
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maddipati1
07-24 01:53 PM
being EB3I myself, it makes me happy to hear a fellow EB3I getting GC. having said that...
the only and correct question about this whole thing is,
Can & will CIS legally take back the GC (even if its their mistake), in future, when they find out?
The answer sadly is,
Yes, they can, they will, as they already did in a few instances, as reported in these forums.
Not contacting CIS to correct the mistake, with a hope of 'they won't notice' and a logic of 'well, it's their mistake and i have to plead ignorance' is like the idiom, hiding your head in the sand, the Ostrich Effect.
the only and correct question about this whole thing is,
Can & will CIS legally take back the GC (even if its their mistake), in future, when they find out?
The answer sadly is,
Yes, they can, they will, as they already did in a few instances, as reported in these forums.
Not contacting CIS to correct the mistake, with a hope of 'they won't notice' and a logic of 'well, it's their mistake and i have to plead ignorance' is like the idiom, hiding your head in the sand, the Ostrich Effect.
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Jaime
07-07 11:15 PM
I think you will have some benefit out of this bill, albeit, indirectly. This Bill will exempt a lot of folks with advanced degrees from US and non-US universities. All advanced degree holders from US univs. (STEM and non-STEM) will be exempt. So, a person with an MBA flus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt. Also, folks with non-US STEM advanced degrees who have been working in the US in a related field for 3 or more years will be exempt as well. The family members of such folks are exempt as well. Consequently a lot of folks currently waiting in the pipeline may no longer be counted against the quota, thus reducing the clog in the pipeline. ANother benefit out of this bill is that it increases the quota from 140K to 290K. There fore, you will definitely see some positive movement in priority dates for people in your and other similar situations (this is the indirect benefit I was referring to). It is very hard to say at this point how much the positive movement would me. It will all depend on how many people will be exempt from the quota.
Just to clarify. You say that "a person with an MBA plus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt" but you don't really need the 4 year bachelors from a US university. The MBA from a U.S. university is enough to be exempt, even if your bachelor degree is from outside the U.S.
Just to clarify. You say that "a person with an MBA plus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt" but you don't really need the 4 year bachelors from a US university. The MBA from a U.S. university is enough to be exempt, even if your bachelor degree is from outside the U.S.
sirinme
06-24 01:35 PM
The lady's response was same as reported by other callers. She took down my name and phone number and said the message would be passed on to the Congressman. She also mentioned his response would be posted on his website.
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psaxena
10-01 12:10 PM
Nope I didn't mention anything about being the proud donor etc. in my first post. You are the one who wrote the comment to my post in the most indecent and disrespectful way, bringing the point of donor. For your reference I have pasted the first comment that you made on my post also for you convenience I have highlighted it as well. Also keep replying as I love to kick your rear again and again.
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I bought my own private jet and I travel in that only. On top of it , to keep an eye on my own private jet's schedule(which flies only for me) I got website developed as well.
Also, I got 5 strippers (sorry air hostess) to entertain me during the flight. Guys if you want to fly in my Private jet and avail all the facilities on board please call my dreamland office and speak to Ms. Fantasy and book up a ticket to neverland.
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Originally Posted by arunmurthy
Guys like you are a disgrace.
When a serious discussion is going on, do you really have to post??
Just shut up and donate to IV by selling your jet!
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Dude you brought up the point of being a proud donor. Nobody gives a hoot if you donate or not.
You are doing it for yourself and not for humanity.
Get it right!
And the way you behave shows what kind of background you have (UP/Bihar)
So just grow up and learn how to respect others!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psaxena
I bought my own private jet and I travel in that only. On top of it , to keep an eye on my own private jet's schedule(which flies only for me) I got website developed as well.
Also, I got 5 strippers (sorry air hostess) to entertain me during the flight. Guys if you want to fly in my Private jet and avail all the facilities on board please call my dreamland office and speak to Ms. Fantasy and book up a ticket to neverland.
Adios
Quote:
Originally Posted by arunmurthy
Guys like you are a disgrace.
When a serious discussion is going on, do you really have to post??
Just shut up and donate to IV by selling your jet!
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Dude you brought up the point of being a proud donor. Nobody gives a hoot if you donate or not.
You are doing it for yourself and not for humanity.
Get it right!
And the way you behave shows what kind of background you have (UP/Bihar)
So just grow up and learn how to respect others!!!
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walking_dude
10-19 01:37 PM
We have E-mailed 800+ IV members who have indicated they're from Michigan, Called some 30+.
We have got good response. We'll know the exact numbers when we meet. Confirmed members may not show up, others may change their mind at the last moment and just drop by. It's hard to predict right now.
A lot of members are interested in "Knowing" what we are doing. Best way to know is "Participate". By attending the meeting you're getting added to the "MI chapter circle of trust" - that is members we feel safe in passing on sensitive and confidential info we get from IV core. We also feel it safe to pass on information about activities covered by IV Non-disclosure policy such as Lawmaker meetings and responses we get, with members we have met personally, talked and know their background. Posting such sensitive info here or on the google groups is not possible as it will be picked up by anti-immigrants trolling IV for such info.
Bottomline : Anybody missing the meeting is missing the opportunity to have access to IV "insider information" which will never be made public to people outside the "trusted circle".
Worst case, even if around 20 guys show up, it's a great start as I've heard that some chapters started of with 5-10 people and now have 100+ members. Don't worry, we will get there.
This is Ashish from Canton, MI. Will surely meet you guyz tomorrow. So, finally how many people, WD?
We have got good response. We'll know the exact numbers when we meet. Confirmed members may not show up, others may change their mind at the last moment and just drop by. It's hard to predict right now.
A lot of members are interested in "Knowing" what we are doing. Best way to know is "Participate". By attending the meeting you're getting added to the "MI chapter circle of trust" - that is members we feel safe in passing on sensitive and confidential info we get from IV core. We also feel it safe to pass on information about activities covered by IV Non-disclosure policy such as Lawmaker meetings and responses we get, with members we have met personally, talked and know their background. Posting such sensitive info here or on the google groups is not possible as it will be picked up by anti-immigrants trolling IV for such info.
Bottomline : Anybody missing the meeting is missing the opportunity to have access to IV "insider information" which will never be made public to people outside the "trusted circle".
Worst case, even if around 20 guys show up, it's a great start as I've heard that some chapters started of with 5-10 people and now have 100+ members. Don't worry, we will get there.
This is Ashish from Canton, MI. Will surely meet you guyz tomorrow. So, finally how many people, WD?
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sam_i02
07-17 08:36 PM
i think this is the same guy who created a huge fuss on july 2nd when we found out that all 485s will be rejected and said that we all deserve it since we did not "remember" people in pbec.
do u want to go thru somthing like that again....by unbanning him?
bestia do not feel sorry for ppl like these...because they kick you when u r happy
hahaha. i also remember one guy telling everyone on this bbs to not file till July 29, so the PDs remain current for August. some one later found out by reading his old posts that he had already filed his 485 :eek:
do u want to go thru somthing like that again....by unbanning him?
bestia do not feel sorry for ppl like these...because they kick you when u r happy
hahaha. i also remember one guy telling everyone on this bbs to not file till July 29, so the PDs remain current for August. some one later found out by reading his old posts that he had already filed his 485 :eek:
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gccovet
09-25 08:27 AM
prince_charming, you had mentioned that you had done H1 transfer with AC21.
I think it was mentioned in one of the posts in Murthy site that such a situation could lead to denial of I-485 as it would constitute abandonment of AOS application. One should use EAD after filling AC21.
Hope Spring,
Can you back your post with any links?
I recently talked with my lawyer and also took consulting (paid $$$ for hourly consulting) with another lawyer as I am going thru the same route. Both the attorney mentioned there was no problem doing ac21 for H1 while AOS was pending for > 180 days and 140 approved .
GCCovet
I think it was mentioned in one of the posts in Murthy site that such a situation could lead to denial of I-485 as it would constitute abandonment of AOS application. One should use EAD after filling AC21.
Hope Spring,
Can you back your post with any links?
I recently talked with my lawyer and also took consulting (paid $$$ for hourly consulting) with another lawyer as I am going thru the same route. Both the attorney mentioned there was no problem doing ac21 for H1 while AOS was pending for > 180 days and 140 approved .
GCCovet
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pappu
04-28 11:35 AM
Thanks everyone for your contributions. We need support from every IV member to succeed.
If some of you have an innovative contribution idea like the last time. (setting small goals and contributing based on that or giving gifts to people when a target is reached) please go ahead and post your pledges on this thread. This may help the momentum of the funding drive.
If some of you have an innovative contribution idea like the last time. (setting small goals and contributing based on that or giving gifts to people when a target is reached) please go ahead and post your pledges on this thread. This may help the momentum of the funding drive.
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satyasaich
02-12 10:29 PM
I don't know what the hell you are up to or you are expecting from IV? Remember they are just like you and me, feeling the pain of broken system. BUT, there is a difference
They stood up bravely to spread the word about all of us. Earlier no one in the capital hill spread the word for persons like you and me.
simple political equation why we (means IV) should also change the strategy. Need to work with someone much closer to Dem. Party and inner circles. I hope you are well educated enough to understand these kind of things. If not atleast do the following favour.
Send a PM to me and we WILL talk.
I'm not a core member,but a member though.
Hence i feel i also have responsibility to CLEAR some of your concerns and will do my best.
I'm a proud supporter of IV and will be.Kindly don't ever make bold statements. Your life is yours, but IV deserve some respect.
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Contributed so far more than $500
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ok, i am beginning to lose confidence now... first no i-485 relief and now wait till CIR>.....last year, CIR turned out to be a big circus....i hope this time something productive happens....
why are we changing lobbying firm? what do you mean it is a strategic decision?
are we dissatisfied with our lobbying firm? pm me if you can post on public forum..
but we need answers....this leadership is going nowhere now......
They stood up bravely to spread the word about all of us. Earlier no one in the capital hill spread the word for persons like you and me.
simple political equation why we (means IV) should also change the strategy. Need to work with someone much closer to Dem. Party and inner circles. I hope you are well educated enough to understand these kind of things. If not atleast do the following favour.
Send a PM to me and we WILL talk.
I'm not a core member,but a member though.
Hence i feel i also have responsibility to CLEAR some of your concerns and will do my best.
I'm a proud supporter of IV and will be.Kindly don't ever make bold statements. Your life is yours, but IV deserve some respect.
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Contributed so far more than $500
Signed up for recurring contribution of $50/Month
Introduced atleast 14 members so far.
ok, i am beginning to lose confidence now... first no i-485 relief and now wait till CIR>.....last year, CIR turned out to be a big circus....i hope this time something productive happens....
why are we changing lobbying firm? what do you mean it is a strategic decision?
are we dissatisfied with our lobbying firm? pm me if you can post on public forum..
but we need answers....this leadership is going nowhere now......
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Chiwere
05-14 09:10 AM
Just confirmed from IRS website I would not be getting the stimulus payment as wife is on ITIN. Missed out on the July stampede last year to get rid of the abominal H4. Looks like groups like FAIR have to engaged head on if any benefits to immigrants(any variety) are to be realized.
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Hermione
09-27 01:44 PM
Franklin, yes, Ombudsman report includes ALL I-485 numbers, plus ALL naturalizations. Among all of them EBs are a small number.
What I was trying to understnd by running the numbers, where does the "leacky bucket" go over time. Imagine EB category as a leacky bucket - new workers on H1Bs are getitng their documents done, that goes to adds, and approvals are being given out, that goes to substracts. If the expected new petititons being ready are more than 140K, the total bucket will grow. If it is less, it will shrink. What I am basically saying, it is between 10K and 20K less adds than deletes, so the backlog should shrink over time (not tomorrow, of course). And it will start shrinking from EB3 ROW, because that is where the unused numbers end up. By watching EB3 ROW number we should be able to tell how fast the pool is shrinking.
Also, in the concept of the leaky bucket, it becomes essential not to lose any numbers, this is why 10K lost numbers a year is unacceptable. Personally, I think advocating number recapture is a waste of time (better off advocating quota increases), but we should be vigilant about CIS not losing numbers going forward.
Efficiency of precessing, in my opinion, is not an issue at all, at least on the USCIS side. FBI is a different story, but even for them, it is rare that cases are stuck for more than two years. Retrogression is the real culpit - being stuck in retro for 5 years is not unusual, and this is a whole lot worse than namecheck. By the way, because naturalizations are also subject to namechecks, there is enough outrage out there that I think namecheck issue will be solved in the next year or so.
What I was trying to understnd by running the numbers, where does the "leacky bucket" go over time. Imagine EB category as a leacky bucket - new workers on H1Bs are getitng their documents done, that goes to adds, and approvals are being given out, that goes to substracts. If the expected new petititons being ready are more than 140K, the total bucket will grow. If it is less, it will shrink. What I am basically saying, it is between 10K and 20K less adds than deletes, so the backlog should shrink over time (not tomorrow, of course). And it will start shrinking from EB3 ROW, because that is where the unused numbers end up. By watching EB3 ROW number we should be able to tell how fast the pool is shrinking.
Also, in the concept of the leaky bucket, it becomes essential not to lose any numbers, this is why 10K lost numbers a year is unacceptable. Personally, I think advocating number recapture is a waste of time (better off advocating quota increases), but we should be vigilant about CIS not losing numbers going forward.
Efficiency of precessing, in my opinion, is not an issue at all, at least on the USCIS side. FBI is a different story, but even for them, it is rare that cases are stuck for more than two years. Retrogression is the real culpit - being stuck in retro for 5 years is not unusual, and this is a whole lot worse than namecheck. By the way, because naturalizations are also subject to namechecks, there is enough outrage out there that I think namecheck issue will be solved in the next year or so.
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MannyD
11-08 03:11 PM
Democrats have taken control of senate also...
I don't think that Dems are quite there yet. I thought I saw CNN reporting one seat in Virginia still undecided. This is the seat where Allen's the incumbent. He is trailing by a thin margin, and I suppose there'd be a recount here. It appears Allen may lose his senate seat in Virginia thanks to his infamous utterance. In that case Dems have the majority.
If GOP were to retain majority in Senate and Dems in House, what would be fate of the congress? Will anything pass through both houses?
I don't think that Dems are quite there yet. I thought I saw CNN reporting one seat in Virginia still undecided. This is the seat where Allen's the incumbent. He is trailing by a thin margin, and I suppose there'd be a recount here. It appears Allen may lose his senate seat in Virginia thanks to his infamous utterance. In that case Dems have the majority.
If GOP were to retain majority in Senate and Dems in House, what would be fate of the congress? Will anything pass through both houses?
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Lasantha
06-19 10:56 PM
Does anybody has answer to this qns please?
Well, all I know is that they are still accepting I-140 applications. I am sure they will continue to do so until the bill is passes. (If it will pass)
Well, all I know is that they are still accepting I-140 applications. I am sure they will continue to do so until the bill is passes. (If it will pass)
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sprash
01-14 02:50 PM
I was wondering if there is any documentation that we can show the employers to dissuade them from revoking I-140 when leaving the petitioning company...
I have started a thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23116) so that the documentation does not get buried in other other threads... Please reply if you have any links/info.
Thanks in advance!
I have started a thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23116) so that the documentation does not get buried in other other threads... Please reply if you have any links/info.
Thanks in advance!
go_gc_way
06-14 02:53 AM
1st July is Sunday!!! so we have to apply on 2nd July..
Sure, though I am not back from a party... IT IS INDEED PARTY TIME FOR MANY :D
My question was more specific, with dates being current, can you apply for 485 on any day of next month July.
I suppose the next bulletin for Aug (that may probably be released 10 or 11 July) will be only effective since Aug 1st.
Please confirm.
Sure, though I am not back from a party... IT IS INDEED PARTY TIME FOR MANY :D
My question was more specific, with dates being current, can you apply for 485 on any day of next month July.
I suppose the next bulletin for Aug (that may probably be released 10 or 11 July) will be only effective since Aug 1st.
Please confirm.
mihird
07-28 05:16 PM
Consider my case:
Myself: MS In Electrical Engineering - Been on a H1-B sponsored job with Fortune 100 companies for the last 6 years.
Spouse: MD Medicine - Initially on H4 for 2 years, now on a H1-B sponsored residency with a prominent healthcare institution.
I fully agree, H4s should prove their worth, and that is why I never ever let the feeling settle in my spouse's mind, that, that GC was going to just drop from the sky one day for her...
In short, both of us have proved their worth and are on H1s.
Here's where the unfairness of the H4 system kicks in for us. The time spent on the H4 is counted towards the initial 6 year period. By the time she would be done with her residency, she would have exhausted most of that 6 year time. LC cannot be filed for resident doctors, while they are residents.
Result: When she becomes a doctor, her time has run out - technically she needs to be out of USA for 1 year, before considering a re-entry (unfair by all means).
Only solution to this problem:
1. Either the laws change to decouple H4 time with H1 (which I think, is the biggest unfairness of the H4 visa, especially due to the retrogression wait times)
2. I get to file I-485, which I currently cannot because of retrogression. I have an approved LC & I-140 with a PD of early 06. If retrogression gets worse, who knows, even EB2 could retorgress to more than 3 years...
Myself: MS In Electrical Engineering - Been on a H1-B sponsored job with Fortune 100 companies for the last 6 years.
Spouse: MD Medicine - Initially on H4 for 2 years, now on a H1-B sponsored residency with a prominent healthcare institution.
I fully agree, H4s should prove their worth, and that is why I never ever let the feeling settle in my spouse's mind, that, that GC was going to just drop from the sky one day for her...
In short, both of us have proved their worth and are on H1s.
Here's where the unfairness of the H4 system kicks in for us. The time spent on the H4 is counted towards the initial 6 year period. By the time she would be done with her residency, she would have exhausted most of that 6 year time. LC cannot be filed for resident doctors, while they are residents.
Result: When she becomes a doctor, her time has run out - technically she needs to be out of USA for 1 year, before considering a re-entry (unfair by all means).
Only solution to this problem:
1. Either the laws change to decouple H4 time with H1 (which I think, is the biggest unfairness of the H4 visa, especially due to the retrogression wait times)
2. I get to file I-485, which I currently cannot because of retrogression. I have an approved LC & I-140 with a PD of early 06. If retrogression gets worse, who knows, even EB2 could retorgress to more than 3 years...
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