franklin
09-21 08:58 PM
I didn't attended because recently I had a new boss and he was monitoring my daily schedule and being in H1b and coming so close to filing I-485, I was just waiting for my EAD or I-485 cheques to get encashed. On 21st Sep, they got encashed. Now I am bold enough to take a day or two as vacation and attend rally if organized in eastern part.
I did paid 50% travel cost to one of our member from CA.
Sorry for not attending this time, will do it next time.
Another perfectly valid reason - thank you for helping someone go in your place :)
I can guarantee first hand - those CA to DC flights aren't cheap
I did paid 50% travel cost to one of our member from CA.
Sorry for not attending this time, will do it next time.
Another perfectly valid reason - thank you for helping someone go in your place :)
I can guarantee first hand - those CA to DC flights aren't cheap
delhirocks
06-19 06:59 PM
I want to ask if I file my labour before oct 2007 am I going to be safe?
Or I will still come under the merit system?pls anybody will ans this question. I am going to start my GC 2 months(after adv etc)
You need to file for I-140 before 10/1/07.
For that you need to have an aproved Labor.
Bear in mind this is just one of the opinions out there (albeit the most prevalent)
Nothing is final yet, untill CIR passes both houses and signed by the president before 09/30/07. (Though it looks highly likely now)
Or I will still come under the merit system?pls anybody will ans this question. I am going to start my GC 2 months(after adv etc)
You need to file for I-140 before 10/1/07.
For that you need to have an aproved Labor.
Bear in mind this is just one of the opinions out there (albeit the most prevalent)
Nothing is final yet, untill CIR passes both houses and signed by the president before 09/30/07. (Though it looks highly likely now)
eb3_nepa
12-01 01:23 PM
SATYAGRAH is an Excellent idea.One day hunger strike near Capitol hill will give enough media attention ! I think it is legal to protest in a peacefull way. It is much better than rally ! I am ready to participate in SATYAGRAH in DC !
Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
Might wanna get a REALLY strong woolen shawl for the guy playing Gandhiji, if we're doing it in winter ;)
Just a question, how is this so called "Satyagragh" going to work? We fast and stand outside the white house protesting?
Keep aggressively working on SATYAGRAH (insist for truth) to end retrogression. If nothing happen in lame duck session, I would suggest to gether at DC (may be 50-100 people) and have one day hunger opposition. One person can dress like Gandhi to attract attention of media. Send one flower and picture of Gandhi to all Congree members with just one line message and it can be repeated every week.
Might wanna get a REALLY strong woolen shawl for the guy playing Gandhiji, if we're doing it in winter ;)
Just a question, how is this so called "Satyagragh" going to work? We fast and stand outside the white house protesting?
gapala
03-05 08:23 PM
$5000 shouldn't be a big deal for a quarter million community who's seeking some information on this...I guess either IV should start and campaign and collect money for this or we can saperately collect money for this..
Sounds great!
Where did you get this number from? :D:D:D:D
May be you had a cartesian join :))
Sounds great!
Where did you get this number from? :D:D:D:D
May be you had a cartesian join :))
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dpp
07-21 08:24 AM
Frankly speaking, i am not a sufferer from BEC, but i want to know more about this mess.
Does the FIFO means, they process the applications in FIFO order, Does it mean that they approve also in the FIFO order? I think both processing and approving are different. Whoever got the case with less complications, will first get the approval and whose case got more complications, takes more time. Is it correct? I may be wrong. I think thats the reason why 2004 PDs may come out BEC fast sometimes as they put the case strongly and clearly.
Don't shout at me, i may be wrong.
Risker,
I am very glad that you brought this point. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than suing the DOL. We may not sue DOL on their inability to clear the backlogs, but we can definitely sue them in their utter and deliberate disregard to FIFO procedures (mind that some people with priority dates in 2004, 2005 have already got their labor certifications, but some with priority dates in 2001, 2002 are still stuck). When I read on the DOL web site that they have tried to maintain FIFO, it makes me feel like puking.
Some folks have pointed that the lawsuit is not worth, as it has little chance of winning. To me personally, more than winning or loosing, it is a matter of bringing injustice to the light, as Gandhi has said something in this line: First step against injustice is to make it visible. This law suit will bring public scrutiny to the misdeeds of the DOL.
Even if all the backlogs get cleared by September 2007, severe damage has been already dealt to our lives. Though I am close to getting my labor clearance (I filed RRI few weeks back), I am strongly in favor of continuing with the law suit even after getting the labor clearance.
Let’s get IV’s attention and support in this area. Let’s talk to AILA. Let’s write letters to senators and house representatives (congresswoman Lofgren may be good person to start with). Let’s write to media personnel. Let’s do whatever needs to be done to expose this insult and injury to the immigrants who waited in the line for years and followed rules of the game.
Does the FIFO means, they process the applications in FIFO order, Does it mean that they approve also in the FIFO order? I think both processing and approving are different. Whoever got the case with less complications, will first get the approval and whose case got more complications, takes more time. Is it correct? I may be wrong. I think thats the reason why 2004 PDs may come out BEC fast sometimes as they put the case strongly and clearly.
Don't shout at me, i may be wrong.
Risker,
I am very glad that you brought this point. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than suing the DOL. We may not sue DOL on their inability to clear the backlogs, but we can definitely sue them in their utter and deliberate disregard to FIFO procedures (mind that some people with priority dates in 2004, 2005 have already got their labor certifications, but some with priority dates in 2001, 2002 are still stuck). When I read on the DOL web site that they have tried to maintain FIFO, it makes me feel like puking.
Some folks have pointed that the lawsuit is not worth, as it has little chance of winning. To me personally, more than winning or loosing, it is a matter of bringing injustice to the light, as Gandhi has said something in this line: First step against injustice is to make it visible. This law suit will bring public scrutiny to the misdeeds of the DOL.
Even if all the backlogs get cleared by September 2007, severe damage has been already dealt to our lives. Though I am close to getting my labor clearance (I filed RRI few weeks back), I am strongly in favor of continuing with the law suit even after getting the labor clearance.
Let’s get IV’s attention and support in this area. Let’s talk to AILA. Let’s write letters to senators and house representatives (congresswoman Lofgren may be good person to start with). Let’s write to media personnel. Let’s do whatever needs to be done to expose this insult and injury to the immigrants who waited in the line for years and followed rules of the game.
ciber.couger
09-21 11:03 PM
Hi,
I am from Jordan and I attended the rally. 4 of my friends "who are Jordanian and have their citizenships already" drove from Chicago to attend the rally, but they got lost in Baltimore. They wish all of us all the luck and they support all of us 100%:)
That have been said and as I mentioned on another threat, I know 10 people from India who work with me and promised to meet me there, but no one of them attended, and I called them before the rally at their offices and all of them were there. I am very disappointed of them.:mad:
I am from Jordan and I attended the rally. 4 of my friends "who are Jordanian and have their citizenships already" drove from Chicago to attend the rally, but they got lost in Baltimore. They wish all of us all the luck and they support all of us 100%:)
That have been said and as I mentioned on another threat, I know 10 people from India who work with me and promised to meet me there, but no one of them attended, and I called them before the rally at their offices and all of them were there. I am very disappointed of them.:mad:
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geevikram
05-20 12:31 PM
Thanks rayoflight. But am'I not helping myself? Please donate generously, this is your future/your child's future.
canada1
05-16 02:51 PM
This is yet another example of how the US is happy to tax us and let us finance Social Security, then place us in a similar category to "illegal aliens" when it suits them. Please give results on any legal redress as soon as you have them, as I will join also. I have already written to Congressman Chris Van Hollen of Maryland about this.
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sobers
06-30 12:57 PM
CompeteAmerica press release on SKIL Bill
http://www.competeamerica.org/news/alliance_pr/20060630_shadegg.html
I'm sure the AILA guys can get Democrat votes for this measure. After all, they're supposed to be Pro-Immigrant, right??
IV- i think we ought to send webfaxes to the Reps who've introduced this bill for legal immigrants. This is a concrete step towards honoring America's tradition of welcoming Lawful Immigrants. Could you guys set it up? The least we can do is thank these guys. After all, its not easy doing this with "Crank Tanc" :eek: around...
http://www.competeamerica.org/news/alliance_pr/20060630_shadegg.html
I'm sure the AILA guys can get Democrat votes for this measure. After all, they're supposed to be Pro-Immigrant, right??
IV- i think we ought to send webfaxes to the Reps who've introduced this bill for legal immigrants. This is a concrete step towards honoring America's tradition of welcoming Lawful Immigrants. Could you guys set it up? The least we can do is thank these guys. After all, its not easy doing this with "Crank Tanc" :eek: around...
Legal
05-31 10:55 AM
I still don't understand what you are saying.
Now, the bad part ... the achilles heel of every high-skills amendment is the tethered H1B quota tricks. They are exempting everyone who has US masters or a non-US master in STEM from H1 quota, effectively making H1 quota = A LOT MORE.
Are you saying the future greencard applicants will have to compete with lot more new H1b s?? Wouldn't this bill help alleviate the retrogression problem and those with approved LC, I-140 etc??
Now, the bad part ... the achilles heel of every high-skills amendment is the tethered H1B quota tricks. They are exempting everyone who has US masters or a non-US master in STEM from H1 quota, effectively making H1 quota = A LOT MORE.
Are you saying the future greencard applicants will have to compete with lot more new H1b s?? Wouldn't this bill help alleviate the retrogression problem and those with approved LC, I-140 etc??
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girijas
09-12 11:18 AM
Republicans are generally more amenable to legal immigration fixes than Dems. While not all of the Dems are bad, most of them dont care about legal immigration -- they just want the illegals. If it were not for these Dems, 5882 would have sailed through by now
I am sure NoBama will say CIR. illegals first. etc. etc.
I am not sure how much the next president will affect the passage of the bill through the two houses since they were majority democrat and will continue to be majority democrat. Senate is projected to continue to be majority democrat even after the upcoming election (when 1/3th of the Senate seats are up for election). A Republican president might not veto such a bill. Not sure if Obama would veto a bill which has passed through a democratic majority vote. Just a thought........I could be wrong.
I am sure NoBama will say CIR. illegals first. etc. etc.
I am not sure how much the next president will affect the passage of the bill through the two houses since they were majority democrat and will continue to be majority democrat. Senate is projected to continue to be majority democrat even after the upcoming election (when 1/3th of the Senate seats are up for election). A Republican president might not veto such a bill. Not sure if Obama would veto a bill which has passed through a democratic majority vote. Just a thought........I could be wrong.
SOA
07-19 02:13 PM
Thank you for sharing this info.
I filed my I140 on July 17, and it was delivered on July 18.
Would this be included in that group you mentioned that will be given receipt numbers by August 1?
Thanks...
I filed my I140 on July 17, and it was delivered on July 18.
Would this be included in that group you mentioned that will be given receipt numbers by August 1?
Thanks...
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TonySingh
06-07 10:42 PM
Thats America
canadianinnyc
02-22 01:05 PM
I just got laid off.
I am an EB2 (Jul 15, 2007 priority date). I jointly filed my I-140/I-485 5 months ago (1 month inside the 6 month period to become 'portable'). I was at Merrill Lynch; they said they do not typically inform immigration of laid off employees and the lawyers feel that I should still be able to get my I-140/I-485 (hence, my greencard) desp. They said, due to the current economic conditions (and subsequent large numbers of layoffs) US immigration is not to 'stick'y on the 6 month requirement for portability.
Does this sound plausible? Is there anything I need to be aware/careful of? Does it seem likely I will need to start my greencard (PERM) process from the beginning again?
Your knowledge is urgently appreciated. Many thanks!!
I am an EB2 (Jul 15, 2007 priority date). I jointly filed my I-140/I-485 5 months ago (1 month inside the 6 month period to become 'portable'). I was at Merrill Lynch; they said they do not typically inform immigration of laid off employees and the lawyers feel that I should still be able to get my I-140/I-485 (hence, my greencard) desp. They said, due to the current economic conditions (and subsequent large numbers of layoffs) US immigration is not to 'stick'y on the 6 month requirement for portability.
Does this sound plausible? Is there anything I need to be aware/careful of? Does it seem likely I will need to start my greencard (PERM) process from the beginning again?
Your knowledge is urgently appreciated. Many thanks!!
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abhijitp
09-21 06:52 PM
I didnt attend the rally because I thought there isnt much that would come out of it. The expense was too much to fly from CA. However, if it was in the BA I would have gone...
mrane1, zerocomplexity, jay75: You know that CA had (one of or maybe THE) the biggest contingent at the rally. Besides, help was available to get you to the rally from CA or WA or OR.
A lot of us including myself flew on the 18th and returned the same evening, and a lot of us, again, including myself were part or fully sponsored by others who could not make it for personal reasons.
Of course, if you thought there is not much that would come out of it... it is a different story. Maybe you should look at the positive energy that every one of those 1000 souls is brimming with.
Need to call or faxing senators when the next bill about legal immigration comes to discussion? Oh ... that is a piece of cake if you ask any of these 1000 souls who made it to DC and proudly marched beneath the Sun shining over the capital of the nation!
mrane1, zerocomplexity, jay75: You know that CA had (one of or maybe THE) the biggest contingent at the rally. Besides, help was available to get you to the rally from CA or WA or OR.
A lot of us including myself flew on the 18th and returned the same evening, and a lot of us, again, including myself were part or fully sponsored by others who could not make it for personal reasons.
Of course, if you thought there is not much that would come out of it... it is a different story. Maybe you should look at the positive energy that every one of those 1000 souls is brimming with.
Need to call or faxing senators when the next bill about legal immigration comes to discussion? Oh ... that is a piece of cake if you ask any of these 1000 souls who made it to DC and proudly marched beneath the Sun shining over the capital of the nation!
thomachan72
06-09 02:46 PM
I replied to the EB3_Nepa's first post saying that we probably should support killing this bill and try to attach our amendments to other bills.
And then I saw posts from others saying there were 700000 faxes from anti immigrant groups to kill the bill. And we barely managed to send some 10000 to 20000.
Like someone else said we seem to fighting their huge swords with our toothpicks. With a member strength of 14000, we will not be able to fight their web fax camaigns with any bill this year (even appropriations bills etc.).
So I come to this conclusion (which IV pundits probably arrived at long back) - the only way we can fight the anti immigrants is by aggressive lobbying. We have only 14000 members, but we together can contribute like we are a 700000 membership. And then we could think about hiring more than one lobbying firm if that helps, otherwise apply more pressure through the one we currently use.
This is the only way, I feel we can get anything done this year, because increasing membership takes a longer time than raising funds, and we dont have time!!!!
I completely agree with you. We have not come all this way just to look up at the sky and say "Thank God, the CIR failed" OK. Dont know how many hours / money the core members could have put in in washington or otherwise regarding this bill. I firmly believe that failure of cloture of vote was part of the lobbying effort too. If eveyone wanted to just get this passed in the current form, then why did the vote fail? They know there needs to be key changes and thats what they will now work towards. Now neelu whether you are UGA / sharma's lab or not, I completely agree with you.
And then I saw posts from others saying there were 700000 faxes from anti immigrant groups to kill the bill. And we barely managed to send some 10000 to 20000.
Like someone else said we seem to fighting their huge swords with our toothpicks. With a member strength of 14000, we will not be able to fight their web fax camaigns with any bill this year (even appropriations bills etc.).
So I come to this conclusion (which IV pundits probably arrived at long back) - the only way we can fight the anti immigrants is by aggressive lobbying. We have only 14000 members, but we together can contribute like we are a 700000 membership. And then we could think about hiring more than one lobbying firm if that helps, otherwise apply more pressure through the one we currently use.
This is the only way, I feel we can get anything done this year, because increasing membership takes a longer time than raising funds, and we dont have time!!!!
I completely agree with you. We have not come all this way just to look up at the sky and say "Thank God, the CIR failed" OK. Dont know how many hours / money the core members could have put in in washington or otherwise regarding this bill. I firmly believe that failure of cloture of vote was part of the lobbying effort too. If eveyone wanted to just get this passed in the current form, then why did the vote fail? They know there needs to be key changes and thats what they will now work towards. Now neelu whether you are UGA / sharma's lab or not, I completely agree with you.
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paskal
09-22 11:48 AM
I really dont know what the purpose of this thread is, or whether it accomplishes anything.
It seems to be doing more harm than good.
if the movers of this thread have no objection i would like to close it.
i hope though in the meanwhile we can turn the discussion to more productive directions. there is much to be done yet.
It seems to be doing more harm than good.
if the movers of this thread have no objection i would like to close it.
i hope though in the meanwhile we can turn the discussion to more productive directions. there is much to be done yet.
skv
09-25 11:56 AM
I did not mean what you imply. Yes it can happen to any law firm. I was expressing the pain I experienced as per the topic of the first post. I am glad it worked out for you and wish no one ill will.
I understand it and feel sorry for you my friend! Good luck, next time! Hope you will have a good experience with any of the law firm who choose to work with, going forward :-)
I understand it and feel sorry for you my friend! Good luck, next time! Hope you will have a good experience with any of the law firm who choose to work with, going forward :-)
micofrost
07-19 01:05 AM
Actually some of concern of EB3 is valid.But their explanation cannot convince DOS or USCIS. According to DOS/CIS EB1 has more skills than EB2 and EB2 has more skills than EB3. That is not true in many cases. EB1 most cases are genuine except some cases in multi national managers. A manager in CTS could file in EB1 but at the same time similar manager in Intel cannot file in EB1. But only very few are in numbers because of restrictions like working in other country branch etc. So people do not bother about EB1 being current always.
Coming to EB2, the job requirement require Masters or 5 years experience. If the requirement is genuine then it is ok to give priority to EB2. But in reality(mainly consulting companies) the job requirement is decided mostly in Lawyers office or by candidate just because candidate has
master degree or 5 years experience. Though CIS scrutinise the EB2 applications still rejection rate is less. And also many persons trying to use 3 year degree and 2 year Master and apply for Eb2 by adding PG diploma etc.
So it appears that there is no difference in skills between EB2 and EB3. If CIS and companies follow strictly the law and good faith then number of candidates would have been less in EB2 and EB2 would have been current and remaining would have been transferred to EB3. But these reasons could not be given to DOS/CIS. According to DOS/CIS EB2 has more skills than EB3.
Are u saying all eb2s have earned the experience under the table. Then why couldn't you do so then ?
Dont blame the lawyers or the employers. May be there are one or two, which I am yet to find. But if you have seen it and very sure of it, why didnt u complain about it earlier to the appropiate officials.
Dont be a cry baby.
Coming to EB2, the job requirement require Masters or 5 years experience. If the requirement is genuine then it is ok to give priority to EB2. But in reality(mainly consulting companies) the job requirement is decided mostly in Lawyers office or by candidate just because candidate has
master degree or 5 years experience. Though CIS scrutinise the EB2 applications still rejection rate is less. And also many persons trying to use 3 year degree and 2 year Master and apply for Eb2 by adding PG diploma etc.
So it appears that there is no difference in skills between EB2 and EB3. If CIS and companies follow strictly the law and good faith then number of candidates would have been less in EB2 and EB2 would have been current and remaining would have been transferred to EB3. But these reasons could not be given to DOS/CIS. According to DOS/CIS EB2 has more skills than EB3.
Are u saying all eb2s have earned the experience under the table. Then why couldn't you do so then ?
Dont blame the lawyers or the employers. May be there are one or two, which I am yet to find. But if you have seen it and very sure of it, why didnt u complain about it earlier to the appropiate officials.
Dont be a cry baby.
140jibjab
07-05 01:43 PM
com 'on. H4 process is known as Dependent Visa. You knew this before getting your "Babli" to the US. Let H4 prove the Credentials and Get H1 and then start seeing "Green".
Nobody asked you to get married :)
Nobody asked you to get married :)
kevinkris
02-12 06:48 PM
Hi All,
To organize the campaign i posted it to thepoint.com campaign.
Our deadline is 25,000 by March 1st.
http://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/iv-letter-to-president
Send this link to everyone and ask them to vote for the campaign.
Thanks,
Kris
To organize the campaign i posted it to thepoint.com campaign.
Our deadline is 25,000 by March 1st.
http://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/iv-letter-to-president
Send this link to everyone and ask them to vote for the campaign.
Thanks,
Kris
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